James Matthew HALL Arra Bell HALL Minnie HALL Infant HALL Thomas Sheridan EDMONDS Grover Cleveland HALL MacDonald HALL Kirby HALL Essie L HALL Rachel Jane GURLEY Mini tree diagram

Pansy Mae HALL1,7,8,2,9,4,3,6,5

6th Apr 18827 - 31st Mar 19782,6

Life History

6th Apr 1882

Born in Yancey County, North Carolina.1,2,3,4,5

(most likely)

Apr 1884

Born in North Carolina.7

(less likely)

6th Apr 1885

Born.6

(less likely)

16th Apr 1904

Married Thomas Sheridan EDMONDS in Yancey County, North Carolina.8,4

28th Nov 1965

Death of Thomas Sheridan EDMONDS in Mars Hill, Madison, North Carolina.10

31st Mar 1978

Died in Mars Hill, Madison, North Carolina.2,6

Notes

  • 1900 Federal Census, Yancey County, North Carolina, 7 June, Crabtree Township, District 123, page 3B-4A, Hse #46, Fam #48
    Hall, James M Head W M Feb 1837  63 Married 20 years NC NC NC Farmer Owns
    Hall, Rachel Wife W M April 1855  45 Married 20 years 8 children/7 living NC NC NC
    -- page 4A --
    Hall, Pansey Dau W F April 1884 16 Single NC NC NC Farm Laborer
    Hall, Cleveland  Son W M July 1889 10 Single NC NC NC
    Hall, Kirby  Son W M April 1894 6 Single NC NC NC
    Hall, Essie Dau W F Mar 1897 3 Single NC NC NC

    The date of birth reported here for Pansey, April 1884, is two years later than that reported in genealogies, 6 April 1882.  The Social Security Death Index reports yet another date, April 1885.  This is common for people born in this era.  The 190-0 census was notorious for wrong years of birth, commonly 1 years off, often much more.

    A descendant of Thomas and his first wife Ara Bell Hall says that both Pansy and Ara were born in Yancey County, North Carolina.  She also states that Ara (Arra) and Pansey were half-sisters.  The timeline, however, does not accommodate Arra's reported date of birth.

    Tom and Ara Bell's marriage record clarifies her birth somewhat, reporting her 18 years old at the time of her marriage in 1898.

    NC Marriages List 1850 - 1920
    (Very Common Transcription Error in Tom's last name)
    Thomas EDWARDS [Edmonds] 22
    Spouse Ana Belle HALL 18 [b abt 1880]
    18 Jun 1898 Yancey County
    Witnesses:  D J Young - A E Hensley, R J Hyatt, H B Silver
    --  Courtesy of Suzy Crews, comment on this genealogy on Ancestry.com, 2 Nov 2013

    Pansey was the daughter of James Madison Hall and his second wife, Rachel Gurley.  James' first wife, Judea or Judy Robinson, is reported to have died in 1876, while Arra, who is reported in 1900 as being born in Dec 1880, 4 years after Judy died.  James married Rachel in 1880, perhaps early enough for her to have been Arra's mother.  But other genealogies report no child of James Matthew Hall by either wife named Ara/Arra Bell.

    In a series of communications with another descendant of Thomas Sheridan Edmonds, we learned that other members of this lineage also have the idea that Judith was the mother of Arra Bell, even though the dates in historical evidence make it impossible.

    "I just called one of the two living children of Pansy Susan Dunn, she and her sister Donna lives in TX. She says that Arra and Pansy were half sisters. She may be wrong also."
    --  Rema Ogle. email to Orville Boyd Jenkins, 29 March 2013

    In 1904, after Ara Bell's death, Thomas married her sister Pansey Mae Hall.

    NC Marriages List 1850 - 1920
    Thomas EDMONDS 29 - Pansey M HALL 19
    Married 16 Apr 1904 Yancey County
    Ceremony performed by Rev E Silver
    --  Courtesy of Suzy Crews, comment on this genealogy on Ancestry.com, 2 Nov 2013

    1910 Federal Census, Madison County, North Carolina, 3 May, Upper Laurel Township, District 92, page 8B, Upper Laurel Rd, Hse #148, Fam #149
    Edmonds, Thomas S Head M W  34  2nd Marriage Married 6 yrs TN TN TN Farmer Owns [b abt 1876]
    -- page 9A --
    Edmonds, Pansy M Wife  F W  26  1st Marriage Married 6 yrs 4 children/4 living NC NC NC
    Edmonds, William S Son  M W 5 Single NC NC NC
    Edmonds, Kanie M Son  M W 4 Single NC NC NC
    Edmonds, Dora E Dau  F W 4 Single NC NC NC
    Edmonds, Vertie Dau  F W 4mos Single NC NC NC

    1920 Federal Census, Madison County, North Carolina, 10 January, Upper Laurel, District 127, page 2B-3A, Hse/Fam #37
    Edmonds, Tom S Head Owns M W  48 TN TN KY Farmer [b abt 1971]
    Edmonds, Pansy M Wife F W  37 NC NC NC [b abt 1882]
    Edmonds, Spurgin [sic] Son M W  14 NC NC NC [b abt 1905]
    Edmonds, Kennie M Son M W  12 NC NC NC [b abt 1907]
    -- page 3A --
    Edmonds, Dora Dau F W  11 Single NC NC NC [b abt 1908]
    Edmonds, Vertie Dau F W  10 Single NC TN NC [b abt 1909]
    Edmonds, Rachel Dau F W  7 Single NC TN NC [b abt 1912]
    Edmonds, Troy Son M W  6 NC NC NC [b abt 1913]
    Edmonds, Ed Son M W  4yrs8mos NC NC NC [b abt April 1915]
    Edmonds, Sue Dau F W  2 Single NC TN NC [b abt 1917]

    "I have a copy of a Delayed Certificate of Birth Registration in North Carolina for Rachel Edmonds the daughter of Thomas and Penny [Pansey] Hall Edmonds."
    --  Suzanne Kennedy, Geneanet Messageing to Orville Boyd Jenkins, 7 August 2015

    1930 Federal Census, Madison County, North Carolina, no date, Upper Laurel Township, District 19, page 9B, Hse #174, Fam #181
    Edmonds, Thomas S Head Owns $800 Owns Radio M W 58 First Married at age 20 NC NC NC Farmer
    Edmonds, Pansy Wife F W 49 First married at age 19 NC NC NC
    Edmonds, Troy Son M W 17 NC NC NC Laborer
    Edmonds, Ed Son M W 14 NC NC NC Laborer
    Edmonds, Susana Dau F W 13 NC NC NC
    Edmonds, Mills Son M W 11 NC NC NC
    Edmonds, Imogene Dau F W 9 NC NC NC
    Edmonds, Donnie Dau F W 5 NC NC NC
    Edmonds, Alfred S Son M W 11mos NC NC NC

    1940 Federal Census, Madison County, North Carolina, 11 April, Township 11, District 8-24, Page 3B, Lower Laurel Rd, Hse #42, Owns $300
    Edmonds, Tom Head M W 68 Married Grade 0 b NC Same place in 1935 Farmer [b abt 1872]
    Edmonds, Pansy Wife F W 56 Married Grade H4 b NC Same place in 1935 [b abt 1884]
    Edmonds, Mills Son M W 20 Grade H4 b NC Far Helper [b abt 1920]
    Edmonds, Imogene Dau F W 18 Single Grade H1 b NC Same place in 1935 Rug Maker [b abt 1922]
    Edmonds, Donnie Dau F W 16 Single Grade H1 b NC Same place in 1935 Home Work [House work?], Private Home [b abt 1924]
    Edmonds, Alfred Son M W 11 Single Grade 4 b NC Same place in 1935 [b abt 1929]
    Shelton, Mrs Blaine [Susanna?] Dau F W 29 Widow Grade 6 b NC Same house in 1935 [b abt 1911]
    Shelton, Genevive Granddau F W 5 Single Grade 10 b Same house in 1935 NC [b abt 1935]
    Shelton, Blaine Jr Grandson M W 3 Single Grade 0 b WV Princeton, Mercer Co WV in 1935 [b abt 1937]

    North Carolina Death Collection, 1908-2004
    Pansy Hall Edmonds
    White Female, Widowed
    Residence Madison County, North Carolina
    Age 95, Birth 6 Apr 1882
    Death 31 Mar 1978 At Home, Madison County, North Carolina
    No Autopsy
    Attended by a Physician
    Burial in state
    Social Security #242-90-0925

    Social Security Death Index
    Pansy Edmonds
    Born 6 Apr 1885
    Died Mar 1978
    Last Residence Mars Hill, Madison, North Carolina 28754
    SSN 242-90-0925 issued North Carolina (1968)

    ----------------------------------------------------
    Need info on the late Dr. James Madison Hall and his wife Rachel Gurley.  They resided in Yancey County and their daughter Pansy Hall was born there 4-6-1885. Pansy married Thomas S. Edmonds and later resided in Madison County, NC.  James and Rachel also had a daughter named Essie Hall nee Hughes [? Essie Hughes nee Hall (born Hall) or Essie (Hall) Hughes] who resided in Burnsville at the time of Pansy's death in 1978.

    According to Pansy's obituary, she was survived by seven daughters, Mrs. Bertha Shrewsburry of Daniels, W. Va., Mrs. Dora Aycock of Halifax, N.C., Mrs. Vertie Abad of San Diego, Calif., Mrs. Rachel Shelton of Lynchburg, Va., Mrs. Suzanne Pridemore of Austin, Tex., Mrs. Imogene Trevino of Kinston, Mrs. Donna Jaranilla of Oviedo, Fla.; four sons, Spurgeon Edmonds of Mars Hill, Troy Edmonds of Weaverville, Ed Edmonds of Marshall, and Al Edmonds of Sanford, Fla.; a sister, Mrs. Essie Hughes of Burnsville; 62 grandchildren, 69 great-grandchildren and 19 great-great-grandchildren.

    --  Tina Hill Fountain, Asheville, NC, Ancestry Genealogy Discussion, 19 Feb 2000,  http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.california.counties.sandiego/32/mb.ashx
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    Pansy Mae Hall Edmonds
    Birth Apr 6, 1882
    Death Mar 31, 1978
    Parents:
    James Madison Hall (1831 - 1916)
    Rachel Jane Gurley Hall (1852 - 1935)
    Spouse Thomas Sheridan Edmonds (1872 - 1965)
    Children:
    Canie Madison Edmonds (1906 - 1978)
    Rachel Edmonds Shelton (1912 - 2013)
    Troy Edmonds (1914 - 2011)
    Edd Edmonds (1916 - 1985)
    Burial Mars Hill Cemetery, Mars Hill, Madison County, North Carolina
    Maintained by Suzy Crews, Originally Created by Nan Ballard Sep 09, 2010
    --  Find A Grave Memorial #58412163, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=58412163

Sources

  • 1. 1930 Federal Census, Madison County, North Carolina
    • no date, Upper Laurel Township, District 19, page 9B, Hse #174, Fam #181
  • 2. North Carolina, Death Collection, 1908-2004
  • 3. Suzy Crews
  • 4. 1910 Federal Census, Madison County, North Carolina
    • 3 May, Upper Laurel Township, District 92, page 8B, Upper Laurel Rd, Hse #148, Fam #149
  • 5. 1940 Federal Census, Madison County, North Carolina
    • 11 April, Township 11, District 8-24, Page 3B, Lower Laurel Rd, Hse #42, Owns $300
  • 6. Social Security Death Index
  • 7. 1900 Federal Census, Yancey County, North Carolina
    • 7 June, Crabtree Township, District 123, page 4A, Hse #46, Fam #48
  • 8. NC Marriages List 1850 - 1920
  • 9. Gerald Bollinger 2005, via Shirley, email to Orville Boyd Jenkins, 24 July 2011
  • 10. North Carolina, Death Certificates, 1909-1975

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