Ankaret Baroness Strange of Blackmere LE STRANGE2,3,4,3

also known as Ankaret LE STRANGE

about 13503 - 1st Jun 14132,1

Life History

about 1350

Born in Blackmere, Shropshire, England.3

1361

Born in Blackmere, Shropshire, England.1,2,3

about 1372

Birth of daughter Mary TALBOT in Hartford, Cheshire, England.5

before 23rd Aug 1383

Married Richard 4th Lord Talbot of Goderich TALBOT.2,1,7

about 1384

Birth of son John 1st Earl Of Shrewsbury TALBOT.3,6

about 1390

Birth of daughter Alice TALBOT.3

7th Sep 1396

Death of Richard 4th Lord Talbot of Goderich TALBOT.1,3,4

4th Jul 1401

Married Thomas 6th Lord Furnival NEVILLE in Whitechurch, England.1

1st Jun 1413

Died.2,1

UNKNOWN

Birth of son Gilbert 5th Lord Strange of Blackmere TALBOT.

Other facts

 

Birth of daughter Joan NEVILLE.

Notes

  • In this generation the Barony of Lord Strange of Blackmere passed intothe Neville family.  The last Le Strange Baron(ess), Ankaret, marriedRichard Lord Talbot.  Their son Gilbert of Irchingfield became the 5thLord Strange of Blackmere.

    At Talbot's death Ankaret married Thomas Neville, 6th Lord Furnival.I note also that Thomas' daughter with his first wife Joan Furnival,Maud Neville, is designated Baroness Strange of Blackmere.  This wasAnkaret's title, which she passed on to her son Gilbert Talbot.  Itappears Maud Neville (Ankaret's stepdaughter) received this title whenAnkaret's first heir, Gilbert Talbot (son of Richard Talbot fromAnkaret's first marriage), died without an heir.  There were many MaudNevilles.  This Maud also became the Countess of Shrewsbury, after hermarriage to John Talbot, second Earl of Shrewsbury.  John wasAnkaret's son by her first husband Richard Talbot.

    Some sources report Ankaret's birth date as 1361.  That would mean shewas 14 at the time of her marriage to Richard Talbot, who is reportedto have been born in 1350, and thus 25 at the time of their marriage.This is possible.  Sources with this date include the Tudorplace LeStrange genealogy and the Worldroots Le Strange genealogy.  At leastone other source, found in the World Family Tree collection, gives thedate I originally used, the same year as her first husband, about1350.  I am changing it in the light of the fairly reliable sourcesgiving the later date.

    The following source gives the family configurations.  Note that thissource styles Thomas Neville as 5th Lord Furnivale, rather than 6th assome other sources do.

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    Ankaret Lestrange was the daughter of John Lestrange, 4th Lord Strange(of Blackmere) and Mary FitzAlan.2 She married, firstly, RichardTalbot, 4th Lord Talbot, son of Gilbert Talbot, 3rd Lord Talbot andPetronilla Butler, before 1383.1 She married, secondly, Thomas deNeville, 5th Lord Furnivalle, son of John de Neville, 3rd BaronNeville and Maud de Percy, before 4 July 1401.1 She died circa 1413.
    From before 1383, her married name became Talbot. From before 4 July1401, her married name became de Neville.
    Child of Ankaret Lestrange and Thomas de Neville, 5th Lord Furnivalle
    Joan de Neville In a different line. Children of Ankaret Lestrange andRichard Talbot, 4th Lord Talbot
    Anne Talbot+ d. 16 Jan 1440/41 Richard Talbot Gilbert Talbot, 5th LordTalbot+ b. 1383, d. 19 Oct 1419 General John Talbot, 1st Earl ofShrewsbury+ b. c 1390, d. 20 Jul 1453
    -- Ankaret and Richard, http://www.thepeerage.com/p929.htm
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    The date of marriage is a bit uncertain.  Two sources, connected withthe Le Strange family line, report the marriage to Richard Talbot wason or before 23 August 1383.  A source in the World Family Tree(anonymous compilation of Genealogy.com) has only the general date of1375, which is 8 years before the exact date 23 August 1383 in theother sources.

    I would normally prefer a source that gives an exact date.  Theseother sources, Tudorplace and Worldroots, have seemed credible andcareful.  However, with a birth date for Ankaret of about 1350, themarriage date in 1383 would mean that Ankaret did not marry until shewas 33.  This is very unusual for that period.

    The date of 1383, However, is also attractive because it is one yearbefore the birth of the Talbots' first child John.  This also seemsexpected.

Sources

  • 1. Le Strange Family Genealogy -- TudorPlace
  • 2. Le Strange Blackmere -- Worldroots
    • http://worldroots.com/cgi-bin/gasteldb?I10564
  • 3. World Family Tree Vol. 4
    • Pedigree #172
  • 4. Jo Ellen Uttin, Talbot Family Genealogy
    • Http://gw.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=joellenuittin&lang=en;p=richard;n=
  • 5. Ancestry Trees
    • Minday/Forsberg,
  • 6. Encyclopaedia Britannica, Electronic 1997
    • Name: Name: Copyright (c) 1996 Encyclopaedia Britannica, Inc. AllRights Reserved;;
    • Article "Shrewsbury, John Talbot, 1st earl of"
  • 7. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900

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